I didn't wanted to say #node in the ast. The presentation or the variable names doesn't matter in terms of less code I believe. Whitney's code is obfuscated which is distinct from less code imo. To some extent. Succinct code is kind of great.

Just to confirm, I'm saying that after the user, the most important thing is less code.

In more practical terms, I'd say try "above anything else" to see where the actual limit is. From my experience, it's way further from where traditional programming is.